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401k fees - The Cost of Your 401(k) Plan

Posted on April 25, 2013 by bobrichards

There can be no question that saving for your own retirement is a financially sound and important thing for you to do, and one of the most common and popular methods of doing this is by investing in a 401K plan at your place of work. But what you may not know is that not all 401K plans are the same.

If you are like many people in the United States, the chances are that you have had several jobs over your working life and, as a result, still have a number of 401K plans with different former employers. Or perhaps you have recently retired, but are not yet ready to cash in your 401K plan(s). Whatever your individual circumstances may be, you should be aware that your 401K plans could actually be costing you money.

Under the current laws, not only are the companies administering your 401K allowed to charge maintenance and service fees, but they are also not required to inform you what those maintenance and services fees are. Some insurance companies and stock brokerage houses are charging as much as 4% or 5% per year off the top for the plans they administer, which can significantly decrease the annual yield and value of your plan. (There are also fees and charges associated with maintaining IRA accounts, and generally there will be management or transaction fees associated with most products.)

Specific fees that are considered to be 'hidden' are:

  • Trading costs, commissions between fund managers and brokerage firms
  • Soft dollar 'excess commissions' paid to brokerages pursuant to Securities
  • Exchange Commission ('SEC') rule 28(e)
  • Sub-shareholder (participant) servicing fees - called 'sub-transfer agent fees'  ('Sub-TA')
  • Account distribution (sales) based 12(b)-1 fees
  • Account servicing based 12(b)-1 fees
  • Unitized variable annuity wrap fees
  • Variable annuity mortality costs
  • 'On-the-fly' pass through fees
  • Retail versions of institutional funds (i.e. funds that could be purchased at a lower price but are not, due to fiduciary ignorance)

Some of the worst offenders of high fees are insurance companies that unconscionably offer 401k accounts wrapped in annuities.  This is a needless extra layer of fees that cannot be defended.  Yet uninformed company managers who are not competent to make a selection are often sold on this idea by talented insurance sales people.  You simply cannot trust the managers at your company to select the appropriate 401k plan provider as they are not held responsible for a bad choice.

Unfortunately, managers at many companies have signed on with 401k sponsors and simply do not understand the fees involved.  Since the fees are not paid by the company, but rather by you and the other participants, the company officers have small motivation to look hard at the fees.  In fact, a study by Spectrem Group showed that most plan sponsors don't know what they pay.

So unless you ask and thoroughly read the prospectus and make sure onerous fees are not being levied against your account, it's best to do an IRA rollover and not leave your funds in a high priced qualified plan.

In fact, some 401k plans allow for in-service withdrawals and if your plan does, get your money out now.

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    Comments

    1. Best etf funds list says

      March 8, 2009 at 8:38 pm

      Looks like a 401 k has more fees than anything else. Management fees and sub fees they seem to get money from you every way they can think of.

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      Reply
    2. cheap@web hosting says

      June 14, 2009 at 3:02 pm

      Great idea. I like the ira roll over. Makes sense to not pay the extra fees for a 401 k if you can own the same stocks or investments in your own ira. You do not loose money or sell the shares so you just move all the shares over.

      Reply
    3. Damon Day says

      July 2, 2009 at 4:28 am

      Not only is it a good idea to roll over the 401k to avoid the fees, but you have much more flexibility on investment opportunities with a self directed IRA than you do by leaving your money into the 401k plan. I always disliked the relatively slim investment choices when it came to most of the employer sponsored 401k plans. If it wasn't for the typical company match, most of them wouldn't be worth investing in.

      Reply
    4. carrol@digital photography says

      July 18, 2009 at 8:12 am

      The problem is you only can invest in certain funds in most 401 k. You do not have many options so you will pay the fees they charge. The only way i can see not paying so much is to roll over 401 to ira after retirement.

      Reply
    5. Stock Clearance says

      July 19, 2009 at 4:23 pm

      Rudimentary, at best. Anyone who is enrolled in a corporate 401k plan, within 30 years of retirement, and doesn't know these basics, probably doesn't have they're portfolio properly invested...like putting 100% of their 401k contributions into the company stock fund!

      Reply
    6. Safety Boots says

      July 23, 2009 at 1:15 pm

      onsider this: If your 401(k) had $100,000 invested in the average stock mutual fund at the beginning of last year, you've lost $39,500, thanks to the worst year for funds since Lipper began tracking them in 1959. You'll have to earn 66% just to get your account back to where it was a year ago.

      Reply
    7. Scott Bikes says

      July 27, 2009 at 2:08 am

      some borrowers defer new contributions into their 401(k) plans while they repay their loans. This is a permanent loss of an opportunity to save on taxes on your retirement assets, and can be a significant disadvantage later. But if you have to stop contributing to your 401(k) in order to repay a plan loan, presumably you’d also have to stop contributing to make payments on an alternative loan outside the plan. This isn’t a reason to choose an alternative loan over a 401(k) loan—it’s just another reason not to borrow at all in the first place.

      Reply
    8. Free xBox live says

      August 9, 2009 at 2:14 pm

      The 401k plan really does leave you with fairly limited options, as there are certain funds you can invest. Then there is the fees to take into consieration.

      I considered this for my parents when looking into retirement investment opportunities, however we soon decided to go with a self directed IRA.

      I guess it really depends on the individual, but it makes it hard since there are so many retirement funding options available.

      Reply
    9. Earn Cash Fast says

      August 15, 2009 at 8:23 am

      Ever Wondered About the Disadvantages of a 401k Plan?

      The disadvantages of 401k plan usage are few. But, if you have the option to choose, there are several things to consider and be aware of. Here are a few things that you should know about IRAs, 401Ks and Roth plans.

      Reply
    10. Learning online says

      August 29, 2009 at 11:45 am

      There are some additional risks to a plan loan. A big one is that you could wind up leaving your employer before you repay the loan. In a 401(k) plan, if this happens, you must immediately pay back the loan, or it will be considered a taxable distribution—in which case you’ll owe taxes on the loan proceeds, plus any applicable tax penalties if it’s an early distribution (i.e., if you are younger than 59½). This can make a cash-crunch situation even worse, so you need to be very sure you’re going to stay at your employer long enough to repay the loan.

      Reply
    11. Medway MA Real Estate says

      August 30, 2009 at 2:40 pm

      As a self employed Realtor I know how important it is to save for retirement. It sounds like I am lucky to be able to contribute to a Keogh account rather than a 401k. I knew there were advantages such as the amount you can invest but did not realize the fees associated with a 401k.

      Reply
    12. Financial Advisor Marketing says

      September 6, 2009 at 4:10 pm

      I was a 401k consultant for years with one of the biggest and most respected mutual fund companies and what I noticed is most participants stay in their employer's 401k plan out of pure inertia. Their choice of investments is so much better if they roll their account over. I just don't get why more of them don't take action. Thanks for this great information! Suzanne

      Reply
    13. Bobby says

      September 26, 2009 at 12:41 pm

      Letting your 401k rollover instead of leaving it in a high priced qualified plan is a smart way to lower the fees payed to managers and keep some of the funds going to the right place.

      Reply
    14. Snap401k says

      September 30, 2009 at 7:52 pm

      Great description of the lesser known or hidden fees. Not all 401k providers are the same. For instance we offer index funds and ETFs which carry very low fees. The management fee is .10% for a Vanguard index fund. If a fund does have commissions we will allow the employer to choose how to handle that like applying it towards reducing costs.

      Reply
    15. compare lms says

      October 5, 2009 at 5:02 am

      Right now, a retiree could have done everything right – from saving more than an adequate amount to picking the right investment options, but could still see a paltry payout from an annuity if interest rates are near lows. To offset that risk, Gale proposes continual contributions to an annuity that accumulates over, say 30, years — balancing out high and low interest rates over the years. One way to fund the annuity: Directing an employer’s match into the annuity rather than company stock or other investments.

      Reply
    16. clavier arab says

      October 22, 2009 at 7:02 am

      Looks like a 401 k has more fees than anything else. Management fees and sub fees they seem to get money from you every way they can think of.

      Reply
    17. Bowling Tips says

      October 30, 2009 at 1:17 pm

      I think if we balance out high and low interest rates over the years. One way to fund the annuity: Directing an employer’s match into the annuity rather than company stock or other investments.

      Reply
    18. Long Beach CPA says

      November 10, 2009 at 6:55 pm

      As a Long Beach CPA, I have worked with a financial advisor that really make the related fees transparent to his clients. I really enjoy working with him and recommending him to my clients because he outlines the fees for the different investments. Great article on this subject.

      Reply
    19. snap401k says

      November 15, 2009 at 10:05 am

      small business 401k, self employed retirement plans, small business retirement plans and QuickBooks 401k plans are good financial plans.

      Reply
    20. Jami@ iD Tech says

      November 20, 2009 at 9:20 am

      I honestly didn't know about the options. Our company does 401K matching. If that is discontinued due to a bad economy, perhaps it is time to do some research on an IRA?

      Reply
    21. Bryn Thomas says

      December 18, 2009 at 9:14 am

      Agreed but there are exceptions for removing money from your 401k penalty-free for economic hardships, in certain cases. You can contact any major brokerage or bank for rolling over your IRA. It is pretty simple, just have to fill out one form.

      Reply
    22. Rob Wagner - SBA Loans says

      December 30, 2009 at 11:51 pm

      Thanks for this information I had no idea that fees for a 401k could be changed without them telling you. It also makes me think when you said that working for different jobs that some people have more than one 401k. I just wonder if I have some 401ks out there and do not know about them.

      Reply
    23. NY Divorce Lawyer says

      January 14, 2010 at 3:40 pm

      There are limited options in terms of what 401K's there are to invest in: you are held hostage to their fees.

      Reply
    24. DIY Guides says

      February 1, 2010 at 10:40 am

      401k plan seems a pretty nice method to:
      1. get some investments going using population funds
      2. get people on a starter-up savings plan which may actually open their minds a bit as far as spending goes

      Right now i want to see it's downside so i'm going to keep reading a bit more about it, but so far it seems like an ok plan in my opinion

      Reply
    25. bowling turkiye says

      February 5, 2010 at 12:30 pm

      retirement seems very difficult 🙁

      Reply
    26. Printing Birmingham says

      February 7, 2010 at 9:01 am

      Even before the recent financial turmoil, it was clear there would be a separate crisis involving retirees. People relying on their 401 k are facing the quandary of how to manage their lump sums so that they have enough to meet their living costs for as long as they live..

      Reply
    27. 4x4 chevy trucks says

      February 9, 2010 at 10:33 pm

      I think the 4% or 5% per year maintenance & service charge is high as compare to other plans & this is wrong marketing practice because the customers are do not know how many fess involve in 401k plan.

      Reply
    28. Herbalife says

      February 19, 2010 at 10:36 pm

      Anyone who is enrolled in a corporate 401k plan, within 30 years of retirement, and doesn’t know these basics, probably doesn’t have they’re portfolio properly invested…like putting 100% of their 401k contributions into the company stock fund

      Reply
    29. Sales Recruitment says

      March 3, 2010 at 9:46 am

      you’ve got high-interest credit card debt, your top priority should be to pay that down. Debt interest rates could crush even the best retirement account returns, so it’s best to use extra funds to dispatch credit card balances quickly. The one exception? If your employer matches 401(k) contributions.

      Reply
    30. Storage Tanks says

      March 5, 2010 at 10:36 pm

      I think if we balance out high and low interest rates over the years. One way to fund the annuity: Directing an employer’s match into the annuity rather than company stock or other investments.

      Reply
    31. Dirk says

      March 6, 2010 at 8:47 pm

      Due to onerous fees and for lack of their transparency one should really be careful in choosing the 401k plan, and perhaps rollover to IRA to have more money in your pocket when you retire.

      Reply
    32. The Hopkins Company says

      March 12, 2010 at 3:57 pm

      If you leave or switch jobs/careers, it is best not to cash out your 401(k) and you should be able to roll it into a new one for the new job/career. Otherwise you will be paying a great deal of fees along with taxes. It can sometimes be upwards of 20-30%.

      Reply
    33. Festival Tents says

      March 13, 2010 at 6:50 am

      You’ve got high-interest credit card debt, your top priority should be to pay that down. Debt interest rates could crush even the best retirement account returns, so it’s best to use extra funds to dispatch credit card balances quickly. The one exception? If your employer matches 401(k) contributions.

      Reply
    34. double bathroom vanity says

      March 15, 2010 at 8:51 pm

      Anyone who is enrolled in a corporate 401k plan, within 30 years of retirement, and doesn’t know these basics, probably doesn’t have they’re portfolio properly invested

      Reply
    35. New York City Criminal Defense Lawyer says

      March 15, 2010 at 10:16 pm

      I agree with Printing, even before the current recession, it was definitely clear that retirees were facing a much harder uphill battle. I have a number of friends who are retired and are now considering going back to work at 69 or 70 years old because their nest egg is not panning out like they had thought it would. A million dollars years ago was a lot more money than it is today. Also, a lot of that was lost in their investments...

      Reply
    36. Cheap @ Web Site Hosting says

      March 17, 2010 at 8:01 pm

      This reminds me of the study that showed that 85% of students from schools like Harvard chose a mutual fund not based on actual rates (minus account mgmt fees) but on how good they sounded.

      Reply
    37. 4 drawer filing cabinet says

      March 20, 2010 at 5:55 am

      he problem comes down to this: The double-whammy of investment losses and withdrawals from your nest egg to pay living expenses dramatically increase your chances of running through your retirement savings prematurely, which is something you obviously want to avoid.

      Reply
    38. Freya Swimwear says

      March 24, 2010 at 11:07 pm

      The problem comes down to this: The double-whammy of investment losses and withdrawals from your nest egg to pay living expenses dramatically increase your chances of running through your retirement savings prematurely, which is something you obviously want to avoid.

      Reply
    39. menards patio furniture says

      March 29, 2010 at 9:13 am

      Great article indeed. My retirement was something I had slight worries about since I did not know exactly how to deal with things. These articles are sure helpful. Thanks.

      Reply
    40. ilya says

      April 10, 2010 at 7:06 am

      sorry, actually i didn't get it if 401 k has more fees, than why i should use it?

      Reply
    41. Jonathan Devine says

      April 10, 2010 at 11:00 pm

      401k management fees can really hurt, it is also quite limited in the securiies you can invest in.

      Reply
    42. Charley @ Kerala Holidays says

      April 13, 2010 at 2:30 am

      401 K is huge amount, I think after retirement 401K will cause financial crisis..

      Reply
    43. Top Web Hosting Providers says

      April 19, 2010 at 10:48 pm

      The problem comes down to this: The double-whammy of investment losses and withdrawals from your nest egg to pay living expenses dramatically increase your chances of running through your retirement savings prematurely, which is something you obviously want to avoid.

      Reply
    44. Les Schwab says

      April 26, 2010 at 10:05 am

      Is there a law which forces the companies to disclose the fees being charged by the 401k management company as part of the disclosure?

      Reply
    45. garden treasures says

      April 28, 2010 at 2:28 am

      I think if we balance out high and low interest rates over the years. One way to fund the annuity: Directing an employer’s match into the annuity rather than company stock or other investments.s

      Reply
    46. galvanized tub says

      May 13, 2010 at 3:11 am

      First you need to ask yourself, How much am I really paying? The all-in fee is important, but also determine the separate fees for service providers, investments and participants. All need separate examination. What does administration cost? What fees do the mutual funds really charge? How much do participants pay for loans, distributions and other services?

      Reply
    47. Lucinda says

      June 17, 2010 at 2:19 pm

      I’m fortunate enough not to have my retirement plan set up with 401K. It’s important to insure that your interest rates aren’t being thrown off balance. Thanks for the heads up.

      Reply
    48. Orange County CPA's says

      June 27, 2010 at 6:53 pm

      Yes, it amazes me how much some financial advisors make for not doing much, just by charging annual fees based on account value. It is better to find someone who charges based on their time.

      Reply
    49. Orange County CPA's says

      June 27, 2010 at 6:55 pm

      I think it's crazy how some financial advisors charge a percentage of assets when they dont really do much. I advise to find an advisor that charges based on time spent managing account.

      Reply
    50. Orange County CPA says

      June 27, 2010 at 11:08 pm

      I recommend my clients go to a financial advisor that charges by the hour and not by a % of assets. It just makes sense that way and they get more for their money.

      Reply
    51. Sports News says

      July 1, 2010 at 12:08 am

      I advise to find an advisor that charges based on time spent managing account.

      Reply
    52. William says

      July 6, 2010 at 3:42 am

      Wow I had no clue you could be charged maintenance fees on a 401k, and I'm sure many retirees aren't aware of that either. It seems like they should have to inform you when fees are charged, but then again it's just a method for companies to squeeze as much money back out of you as they can so why would they bother telling you.

      Reply
    53. dog health information says

      July 16, 2010 at 10:57 am

      I don't think an IRA is worth it in this really bad economy. Fees plus withdrawal penalties. Plenty of middle aged or even younger people are needing their cash because they are losing money or a job and can't wait till retirement.

      Reply
    54. Portland Magician says

      July 21, 2010 at 4:16 pm

      I was layed off and now am in business for myself. I read Ramit Sethi's book "I Will Teach You to Be Rich" and he recommended a Roth IRA so I took my 401(K) and now have a Roth with Vanguard.

      Reply
    55. Witchcraft Videos says

      July 22, 2010 at 5:13 pm

      I advise looking for a 401(K) adviser which is paid by performance instead of percentage fess.

      Reply
    56. William says

      July 22, 2010 at 1:27 pm

      I prefer the Roth IRA myself; considering what I make, might as well pay the taxes now! (Not to say that I'd turn down a 401(k) if it had an employer match!)

      Reply
    57. Queen Anne Furniture says

      July 23, 2010 at 3:34 pm

      IRA roll over s such a good idea and flexibility in investment opportunities. But we have to be aware of the negative side. If you plan for a loan, you could wind up leaving your employer before you could pay your loan. Well, we have to weigh the pros and cons.

      Reply
    58. LED Light Bulbs says

      July 26, 2010 at 1:06 am

      f your employer filed bankruptcy and you left your 401K balances in the plan before the bankruptcy filing, you will have a very difficult time getting your money. The Employment Retirement Income Security Act was passed in 1974 to protect the money that a worker contributes into a 401K and it does so by requiring that funds are placed into a custodial account. A custodian is an independent third party separate from the employer who holds the funds for the employee. Typically this is a 401K plan provider. It does not protect your account value from decreasing. The Act does not protect an employee from the reality of bankruptcy court.

      Reply
    59. Save The Queen Clothing says

      August 6, 2010 at 8:56 am

      Anyone who is enrolled in a corporate 401k plan, within 30 years of retirement, and doesn’t know these basics, probably doesn’t have they’re portfolio properly invested

      Reply
    60. hayfever relief says

      August 11, 2010 at 8:58 am

      The reason why so many 401K plans suck is because it is typically your HR department that selects the final plan. Not your CFO or your treasurer, but the person administering your company’s overall benefits who is typically trying to keep costs down for the company as a whole. One easy way to reduce corporate costs – give your employees a crappy 401K plan

      Reply
    61. new communities in pullman says

      August 11, 2010 at 7:55 am

      Those fees feel like an entrapment. But then, some of us don't really have much of a choice with this matter. After all, it's better to have a retirement plan -- any retirement plan -- than to have none at all.

      Reply
    62. Mobility Products says

      August 13, 2010 at 2:20 am

      If you are the plan participant and your employer offers a designated Roth 401(k) program, the employer must also offer a traditional 401(k) plan. As such, you will need to decide which is better for you. Roth 401(k) contributions are usually more suitable for individuals who will be in a higher tax bracket during retirement, as the tax-free growth allows them to avoid higher taxation on their retirement savings.

      Reply
    63. david says

      October 30, 2010 at 9:32 pm

      It’s often difficult for an investor to know the exact breakdown of fees for their 401(k) plan. Even if you know the breakdown, it can be hard to figure out what portion of it is an excess revenue. It may soon change: as lawmakers are closing the loopholes, the plan costs become more transparent, which usually lower fees.

      Reply
    64. gold wedding rings says

      November 11, 2010 at 9:11 pm

      The idea of 401K seems interesting but I will need to more understand it properly before taking my retirement. Anyway, thanks for your post.

      Reply
    65. jim says

      December 16, 2010 at 4:27 am

      I think down the line annuities are the way to go after retiring. With annuities you're making money with what you have, but at the same time it's not much at risk to be lost. I've done a bit of research and for someone who's approaching retirement being involved in a solid investment is the ideal situation.

      Reply
    66. Kim says

      December 26, 2010 at 10:08 pm

      I know a 401k consultant in Idaho. Who actually advice me to not invest in 401K plan as part of your retirement planning. You're right here. 401K is definitely costly plan compared to other retirement options. According to her, it is for highly compensated employees (HCE), Kim from hgh

      Reply
    67. Gaz Pieprzowy says

      December 27, 2010 at 5:20 am

      401K plan is a way to go but there are always other ways to just backup this plan. I've read about this 401k and from my point of vue it's one of the best approaches.

      Regards, Gaz

      Reply
    68. steve says

      January 1, 2011 at 10:24 pm

      The worst time to stop contributing to your 401(k) is when the market is down. You want to keep adding to your investments (and buy more if you can) while they’re selling at a discount. Lower prices mean you can buy more shares with the same contribution. This lowers your average cost basis and sets you up for bigger returns when the market recovers (and trust me, it will recover).

      Reply
    69. Shaun says

      January 3, 2011 at 6:23 pm

      The best financial advise is usually the pay by the hour option but most 401k plans have trouble implementing this system. It is true many investors don't even realize the excessive fees coming out of their accounts. If they dont want to pay attention to it have your tax advisor take a look for you every during tax season.

      Reply
    70. chris says

      January 18, 2011 at 9:54 am

      Do not withdraw from your 401(k) before retirement. If you take a loan from your 401(k) and can't pay it back on time, it will be treated as an early withdrawal, meaning you will have to pay taxes and 10% penalty. Even if you are able to repay it punctually, it's still a bad idea because you reduce the possibility of compound investment earnings by doing that.

      Reply
    71. pat says

      February 9, 2011 at 9:30 pm

      A tax-deferred 401k plan is the traditional type of 401k program. Employers set up the plan and pay the administration costs for employees to have a retirement investment account. The employer works with the plan administrator to offer a variety of investment options suitable to the different investment objectives of employees. The contributions that employees make are pre-tax funds, taken directly from monthly income. The assets accumulate with no annual tax consequence. When the funds are distributed after age 59 1/2, the distribution amounts are added to ordinary income and taxed accordingly.

      Reply
    72. new communities in north idaho says

      March 5, 2011 at 10:54 pm

      Although you may be eager to leave the office and tap your nest egg, you can do yourself a huge favor by postponing your retirement a bit. Even just a few years of postponement can add quite a bit to your 401(k), which is simply the result of having more time to contribute. Late retirement can also save you money on other things. For example, most corporate health plans cover you until you are 65, so if you retire before that, you will probably have to spend extra money for an individual health plan until Medicare kicks in (at age 65). Plus, working longer will also boost your Social Security checks.

      Reply
    73. bill says

      March 6, 2011 at 12:15 am

      401k retirement plans give employees a range of choices as to how their assets are invested. An individual that knows he or she does not have a high tolerance for risk could opt for a higher asset allocation in low-risk investments such as short-term bonds; likewise, a young professional interested in building long-term wealth could place a heavier emphasis on equities.

      Reply
    74. projekty domow says

      December 31, 2011 at 10:46 am

      I know that I really want to have around me people who understand such issues like the ones mentioned by you in this post. really up level thinking,
      I am just starting my own business, and the world of taxes and 401 allowances is going to be important

      Reply

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